9 comments

1. Comment by Qanah on February 25, 2009 at 2:31 pm

   The importance of a close family will become evident when socio-economicorder collapses further. Learn where to get all things (YHWH) and through whom they come (Yeshua) and how to use it right (holy Spirit).

2. Comment by Christine on March 20, 2009 at 11:09 am

   I appreciated your comments about Yahshua being the Word made Flesh. When I finally got this is when I delved into the Hebrew Language and saw the life and meaning that was in it - like no other language; where the letters themselves actually have meaning….And how basic their meanings are to the basics of life -The family….The Father and The Son and their love and desire for mankind to have that kind of fellowship also….what an amazing Yah we Serve!!!!
   I loved the description of the Father and the Son as Family and the love between them. I agree that somehow that is diminished when we try to categorize That FAMILY into a Triangle(Trinity). It’s like the proverbial pounding a square peg into a round hole, instead in this case it is like trying to pound the Family Circle of Yahweh into a Triangle. Another thought I had when I was reading this and I am probably jumping the gun…since you said you would delve into this further is If the Father is Spirit and those who love him must worship him in Spirit and Truth, then how does one create “a Separate Spirit - as a Separate Member of this Family,” from a family perspective it just doesn’t make logical sense….
   Shalom

3. Comment by PraiseToYah on July 30, 2009 at 7:35 pm

   This message has confirmed so many thoughts that I have had about the relationship between Yeshua and YHWH and how I fit into the family of God. The one question that still plagues me is how women fit into this relationship with regard to God’s authority structure. It seems that women can have a direct relationship with Yeshua the gate which gives them relationship with the Father, but how does that work in an authority structure? When men are under Yeshua, they are under Him in every way, but not so for women. This has been a confusion for me for years – when to follow my head on earth and when to follow Yeshua, being that many times they don’t agree. Also, how does the lineage for women work? It seems that when a woman is born she inherits her father’s seed, but then once she is married and has children it is as if her lineage disapears and she and her children fall under her husband’s lineage. All this seems so confusing to me when it comes to my position in the Kingdom of God and my relationship with my husband.

4. Comment by Tsiyon on August 3, 2009 at 12:22 am

   Hello friends, I appreciate all the great comments on this program and on the others as well. I especially want to address the question by PraiseToYah: “It seems that women can have a direct relationship with Yeshua the gate which gives them relationship with the Father, but how does that work in an authority structure?” Firstly, you are correct that women can enjoy a direct relationship with Messiah. Some of the most beloved Talmidim of Messiah were and are women. In no way are women inferior in that relationship, or in their hope in the Kingdom. You ask specifically about authority though. In Yah’s order of authority the men are called to step up to loving leadership under Messiah’s headship while the sisters are called to serve under that loving headship. The Scripture puts it like this: “But I would have you know that the head of every man is Messiah, and the head of the woman is the man, and the head of Messiah is God” (1Co 11:3 ). Note that there is a chain of delegated authority here. The truth is, all men and women operate under authority sometimes and all must act in submission to authority sometimes. The same principles apply whenever delegated authority from YHWH is involved. Delegated authority is any authority in which Yah has appointed a person to speak and act for Him. In the KIngdom there are offices of apostle and pastor, for example, exercising delegated authority under Messiah. The Scripture encourages all to obey such authority as to the Lord: “Obey your leaders and submit to them, for they watch on behalf of your souls, as those who will give account, that they may do this with joy, and not with groaning, for that would be unprofitable for you” (Heb 13:17). As this verse points out, it is for our own good that we obey those set in authority by YHWH. The same is true of husbands and wives: “Wives, be subject to your own husbands, as to the Lord” (Eph 5:22). This verse makes it plain that to be subject to your husband is being subject to the Lord as well. Why? Because your husband is in a position of delegated authority under Messiah. This does not mean a wife should be stiffled in her contribution to her relationship to her family or to her husband. It just means that someone has to make the final decision and YHWH has said that decision is the responsibility of the husband. Once that decision is made a godly wife who offers her best support and prayers for her husband, even if she does not fully agree, will be blessed BECAUSE SHE HAS OBEYED GOD. What though, if a husband requires her to do something against the commandments of God and leaves no way out from such disobedience? In that case we have the example of the apostles who said: “We must obey God rather than men” (Acts 5:29). This is the point at which a wife must choose God as the higher authority in that case. This principle applies to all delegated authority. Even here, attitude should be respectful rather than confrontational (Jude 1:9). This is your answer in a nutshell. There is much more about all of this in my book “Holy Order Restored.”

5. Comment by fredrad on August 16, 2009 at 4:07 am

   This is a perplexing issue.It is difficult for us to understand this .I believe it will take growth for me to truly “get”this hour.It is a comfort to know that the one that brings us the most comfort in the World will also be our “faithful” wittness with the Father,or Himself.Kind of like an inside edge with the boss.Yeshua is always there,therefore the Father is also.I take comfort in this duality of the “blessed help,guidance,” that Yeshua offers and the “Fear of Yaweh” to maintain our focus.You could not have one without the other therefore both are one.
   Blessing to all
   Fred

6. Comment by MIshis Lassie on August 27, 2009 at 3:33 am

   This teaching is the closest to scripture I have ever heard. Ever since seminary professors so woefully handled the doctrine of the Trinity, I have felt that 1) We finite beings will never truly understand the relationship of Father, Son and Spirit, and that 2) We must always respect one another in our VARIOUS sincere efforts to understand and express in words that Relationship.

   However, I do have a question for you, Eliyahu. I was taught that the word, “Ruach” (Spirit) in the Hebrew, is a feminine noun. I was elated when I discovered that, and felt it was so very beautiful. Though God (who is One/Relationship) is neither male nor female, still, masculinity and femininity flow from God (who is One/Relationship). I felt it was perfection of relationship within God that the Father is expressed in, and acts, in masculine terms, the Spirit is expressed in, and acts, in feminine terms (plus remember the many feminine metaphors used in Scripture for God, as well as “Lady Wisdom”) - and the Son is, in some degree - The Expression of the One Familial Relationship. Doesn’t that idea more completely express the Triune Family, and is it not more honest, accurate, and logical, given the gender of the word, “Ruach”? And as men look to God as Head, and women look to God as Head (in the absence of trustworthy husbands and visa versa), may we not form again, a lesser trinity - a similar triunity? In this way, might we avoid falling into the terrible trap of idolizing our spouses, or, conversely, resentment toward, and blaming our spouses, and will be brought into unity and/or Peace, as we are both freed to look to God as our mutual Leader and Source?

7. Comment by Tsiyon on August 27, 2009 at 5:56 pm

   Some argue that the Holy Spirit should be referred to as “she” because of the grammatical gender of the Hebrew word for spirit (ruach). While this idea holds great emotional appeal on closer inspection it doesn’t hold up. Here’s why:

   The gender of a word and the gender of a person are two different things. For example, the word “stone” in Hebrew (”even”) is grammatically feminine. However, nobody would suggest that stones are actually female, or even somehow similar to females. Here is another example: the Hebrew word for army (”tsavah”) is grammatically feminine. This, even though armies in Bible times were exclusively comprised of males (Numbers 1:2-3).

   Actually, the grammatical gender of “Spirit” varies according to the language it is communicated in. The word in Greek is grammatically neuter (”pnuema”). In Latin (”spiritus”) and in Latin-derived languages it is grammatically masculine. In Semitic languages such as Hebrew (”ruach”) it tends to be grammatically feminine. I say “tends to be” because “ruach” is not always grammatically feminine in Hebrew, but is sometimes grammatically masculine (Numbers 11:31, Isaiah 57:16 etc). Because the gender of the word “ruach” varies in Hebrew some grammars call “ruach” a “common gender,” meaning that it can take either a masculine or feminine verb. This is as close as you can get in Hebrew to neuter, since Hebrew has no grammatical neuter, as Greek does.

   In Greek the word “pneuma” is grammatically neuter. Scripture uses Greek pronouns with “pneuma” that are masculine, such as “parakletos” (comforter) (John 16:7-8). Also, Yochanan/John reports Y’shua/Jesus speaking of the Spirit (grammatically neuter in Greek) using the masculine form of the demonstrative pronoun “ekeinos” (”that male one”). This intentional breaking of the grammatical agreement indicates the intention of the Speaker to convey the Spirit’s masculine nature. In keeping with these and other liguistic facts all major English Bible translations have rightly retained the masculine pronoun for the Spirit. [See John 14:26; 15:26; 16:13-14 and William D Mounce, The Morphology of Biblical Greek, (Grand Rapids: Zondervan, 1994), pp. 241-242)]

   These facts being what they are, it would not be accurate to portray a “Father God” and a “Mother God” as parents to a “Son God.” This simply is not the picture Scripture gives us, but is more like the Babylonian trinity comprised of the triad of Cush, Semiramis (his wife), and Nimrod (their son). Other such pagan trinities have proliferated from this Babylonian one. Our Elohim is not like that pagan construct.

   Having said that, we also want to acknowledge that the Scriptures use nurturing imagery, typically associated with women and mothers, to depict the tender loving care of Elohim. This does not indicate that Elohim is plagued by gender-confusion. Rather, it simply indicates the broad scope of emotion and behavior of which our Elohim is capable. This breadth of emotional capacity alone is sufficient to account for the tender emotions that characterize the beauty, sensitivity and dignity at the core of the creation of true womanhood, by which every person ever born has been blessed.

8. Comment by Shix on November 29, 2009 at 6:52 pm

   When you break down scripture, you will surely see,
   the complete whole picture, the unity three!
   God the Father, God the Son, Holy Spirit- three in one.
   Yeshua’s Words are His word from times ancient past.
   Their Words are eternal, forever to last!

   Essense of God is becoming quite clear,
   fellowship with Yahweh is always so near!
   Just look to Yeshua, God,s only Son,
   Gateway to Yahweh, He IS the one!

   So when you are down,
   situations seem gloom,
   to your prayer closet be found,
   on your knees in your room!

   Repentance from sin is where to begin.
   Repentance to find God’s word in your mind.
   Repentance to return is what you will learn!
   Return to God’s word will be your last hope,
   it’s what you will need in order to cope!

9. Comment by Ester on December 8, 2009 at 10:16 am

   Shalom!
   Interesting fellowship going on here.
   In most languages, certain nouns/objects are in feminine gender, as Eliyahu
   has pointed out, but it is NOT feminine in any way we perceive them to be feminine, e.g., countries are often referred to as “she”, cars, etc.

   There is no “Holy Trinity”. Father and Son is ONE ELohim, and the Ruach is the Spirit of ABBA YHWH The ELohim and Yahshua’s as well; Yahshua is ELohim come in the flesh (John 1:1-5, 14))
   In 1 Samuel 16: 13, 14 “… and the Spirit of YHWH came upon David…”; “But the Spirit of YHWH departed from Saul..”
   1 Samuel 19: 20 “… the Spirit of ELohim was upon the messengers of Saul…”.. just quoting a few examples.
   ABBA YHWH is Omnipresent, HE can choose to appear as a “dove” in the event
   of Yahshua’s immersion, at the same time, ABBA YHWH spoke anouncing
   Yahshua is HIS Beloved Son, in Whom HE, YHWH is well pleased.

   Yahshua (John 14: 7; 16: 7) said, “If you had known me, you would have known the Father also”. “..if I do not go away, the Ruach will not come to you; but if I go
   I will send HIm to you.”

   The Ruach is NOT a “Person”, but IS the Spirit of YHWH/Yahshua.
   I hope that clarifies the trinity doctrine of churches?
   Blessings of truth to truth-seekers,
   Ester.

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