Post-Messiah Davidic Dynasty #76
Posted by TsiyonJun 15
Davidic aspirations ran high among the Jews of the first century, fueling a parade of Davidic contenders for the messianic throne. This misplaced messianic fervor proved to be a catalyst to rebellion and insurrection against the Roman super-state, bringing on harsh reprisals and the eventual destruction of Jerusalem and its Temple in 70 CE. Some of the Davidic players commented on in this program include Menahem, the grandson of Judas the Galilean, John of Gischala, and Simon bar Gjora. In fact, you will learn that there was a Davidic king on the Throne in Jerusalem at the time of its destruction! You will be amazed to hear what happened to him and his administration following the Roman victory. You will also learn that a Davidic dynasty of Yeshua’s family continued among the early believers into at least the fourth century, at which time they were driven underground after a final and fateful meeting with Pope Sylvester of the Roman Church. Some desposynos discussed in this program include Symeon son of Joseph’s brother Clopas, Yeshua’s cousin and the successor to James the Just after his martyrdom; also the grandsons of Jude, the Lord’s brother; Thebouthis, a Davidic rival to Symeon who introduced heresies among the believers; also comments on the whole line of desposyni including such names as Zachary, Joseph, John, James, Joses, Simeon, and Matthias - all the way down to the fateful meeting of a delegation of Nazareans headed by a member of the Lord’s family named Joses with Pope Sylvester in 318 CE. This program contains a lot of vital “Church History” that definitely is NOT the same ol’ story you heard in Sunday School!
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8 comments
Comment by fredrad on March 12, 2010 at 2:57 am
Greetings to all,
What a great show.There is some interesting synchronicity for me here. I was drawn away to shows 216 and 217 on the Urim and Thummim after hearing this program.Great timing,as this hour explains some of the final blows to Yahweh’s Holy Order, for awhile, with this Pyramid called the Roman Church. It is an interesting series we have been doing on the early believers.The actual events paint a much different picture than what we have been led to believe,of the early “Church”. I am thrilled to hear a quote from Father Malachi Martin as I had listed to the Father years ago when he was still alive, more synchronicity. I am well acquainted with Him and his work exposing some of the guts of this Beast called Roman Catholicism, and Exorcism . This as yesterday 3/11/10 The lead Exorcist for the Roman Catholic Church Don Gabriele Amorth, who has been the chief exorcist in the Vatican for the past quarter century, says Satan is at work inside the pope’s domain….Yikes….
So here we are all these years later and we need to pick up where the Pope’s left off.They threw the baby out with the bath water. And Yahweh is ready for us to rise again ,to regather his ‘Holy Order”.It is time for his truth to be held up by the believers or Remnant if you will. I for one am ready to put Yahweh at the center of my Life and Heart and speak for him in our day. Our Brothers died to maintain the truth long enough for it to make it through these centuries to us today for this time. It is time for these truths to be proclaimed once again. Awesome show and great information. Puzzle pieces for sure for the truth seeker.
Fred
Comment by gilahinYah on August 4, 2010 at 2:10 pm
The insanity of men never ceases to amaze me. First of all, the nation of Israel was suppose to be ruled by Yahweh. It was the people that demanded a king to rule over them, like other nations… Saul preceded David and he was not a righteous king as history reveals. Yahweh honored the demands of the people and in His mercy, raised up David (a man after His own heart) to rule in Israel. But, what we can see, absolute power corrupts even the most devoted heart. Murder and adultery. Even so, Yahweh made a covenant with David about his sucessors . The Davidic lineage was important to keep until the coming of our Messiah. His kingdom nevers ends, so why would we be looking for another king in that line? As far as the governing of men, righteous leaders are a blessing to a nation, but those who are not, its destruction.
The fear and greed of unrighteous men caused the death of those who ruled (of Yahshua’s family) the kehila righteously. An awesome look at the history of the nation of believing Israel.
The enemy sowing the tares among the wheat with roman and greek philosophy coming into the principles of the Kingdom of Yahweh.
I trust and believe that Yahweh has preserved the ruling line and that in the fulness of His time; all will be revealed.
Comment by Shix on December 31, 2010 at 2:40 pm
The Roman church attempt, to end the Davidic line,
is as large a part of the mystery of iniquity, that you will find!
The goal to erase, the Hebraic way of thought,
caused family seperation, thus Davidic line being sought!
The extermination backfired, so it really seems,
the prophecy of Yeshua, helped the family flee!
Jerusalem laid to seige, at the Roman’s hands,
believers and His family, safe in Pella lands!
Heretics, false prophets and messiahs, attempt to take control,
now widely accepted, lawlessness swallowed whole!
The Greco/Roman influence, became the state religion,
antisemetic thought, abundant in this region!
Strong delusion present, the Torah disregarded!
What is in the Vatican vaults, that is so highly guarded!
The Roman church has changed, Yahweh’s dates and times,
the Festivals of God, have all been left behind!
Left behind is what we want, make it to the end,
hear the voice of Yahweh, listen close my friend!
Comment by Crigger on February 15, 2011 at 1:24 am
Greetings Tribesman!!!! Another great lesson about the “pompous popes on a rope” who perverted and changed the History of what Yahweh had intended. This is evil and wickedness at its best. The devil has been messin with the Davidic Dynasty ever since he fell from heaven. Well guess what, he for sure is not getting what he wants. We will never ever be destroyed as a Jewish nation, no matter what this demented “putz” thinks. Praise Yah, He has always preserved HIs Word and His People, in EVERY GENERATION!!! Remember Tribe, WE are not wrestling against “flesh and blood, but rather the principalities and devils of this world. Draw your sword and stand on the WORD OF ELOHIM, and watch the enemy duck tail and run. Take up your “execution stake” and follow Messiah. We must die to ourselves DAILY, and become BONDSLAVES to THE ALMIGHTY EL GIBOR!!!!!
Comment by donjuls on February 22, 2011 at 9:19 am
This is quite a depressing time for the early Messianic believers. The dark forces of Satan and his crew seem to run roughshod over the House of David and the early leaders. Even those that had escaped to Pella were hunted down (with the help of some Davidic “brethren”).
You know those books that are going to be open at the second judgment, I imagine there is a massive room somewhere in Heaven that Yahweh stores these volumes and it’s guarded by His angels with flaming swords (like Eden was) so that Satan and his boys aren’t able to get to these records like ones he had the Catholic Church destroy.
Yahweh’s furry will be unbelievable when He decides He has had enough!
Symeon was another, unsung, great man of God in his day. I wonder how many of us would come close to standing as he and James and the other Apostles did? Truly they were filled with the Holy Spirit of Yahweh! I pray that He fills His chosen men with His Spirit to do His work in this age.
Shalom,
Don
Comment by James L on May 20, 2011 at 8:13 pm
A lot of very interesting history here. More proof of the Davidic line continuing after the martyrdom of James the Just. As explained throughout the program the wicked offspring of David asended to the throne just as in pre-Messianic times and these were not approved of by Yahweh also the righteous leaders were also appointed as the bishop of the faith and actually was the true leader of Israel as Yahweh intended. I now see how the Greco-Roman philosopy corrupted the assembly and it’s fruit unfortunately is still with us today. Praise Yahweh for opening the truth to us through faithful believers in these last days. Thank you Eliyahu,Dawn and all involved with this ministry for your hard work and hearts desire for truth that laymen such as I can benefit from such crucial teachings which I’m certain is relevant for today and especially in the future.
Comment by Shalom2Uall1 on June 17, 2011 at 7:35 pm
Another great program & a great history lesson too.
Thank you E. I heard the full 1hr program.
I pray that more people would wake up to the Truth of this matter and be driven in their heart to follow the Truth and not compromise their faith. What and Who is more important? Is it following the popular opinion/teaching to be accepted by man & having that fellowship uninterrupted with the mainstream believers?, or is it to listen to Yeshua and Follow Him even if it means leave your old life behind?
Comment by Jay on April 10, 2012 at 4:36 am
In this lesson we follow the fate of the House of David into the beginning of the 4th century a.d.
Drawing on Josephus, we learn that a descendant of David sat upon the throne in Jerusalem at the time of Jerusalem’s destruction. He was taken to Rome, paraded naked at the head of 70,000 jewish soldiers through Rome and then crucified. Vespasian ordered the remaining descendents of David to be hunted down and killed.
Later under bar Kochba there will be one final revolt. This also ends in ignomious defeat with much loss of life.
After this last revolt, the Jews were thouroughly repugnant to the Gentiles of the Roman Empire. This had an effect also on the acceptance of the observance of the Torah by the gentile Christians in that it only served to solidify their already pronounced tendency to reject it. As ever more Gentiles accepted the message of the Gospel, they brought with them, of course, their own approach to the Scriptures which can be characterized by a preference for seeing Scripture as an allegory - something mystical and spiritual instead of straightforward and concrete. They also preferred the perversion of Paul’s teaching which allowed them to ignore the Torah, thusly making it of none effect - that very thing which Yeshua said He had not come to do.
Those faithful to God’s Torah and the way of the Nazareans were pushed ever more unto the sidelines until at a last meeting with Pope Sysvester in the early years of the 4th century, where they demanded the observance of the Biblical holy days, the removal of the gentile bishops and the reinstatement of the flow of offerings to them - the latter due to them in their position as government of the assembly. This was, not surprisingly, refused and they dropped out of the sight of history, being hopelessly outnumbered by those following the heresy of antinomianism in its various manifestations.
Of note is also the develpment of heresies growing out of the Nazarean assembly throught jealousy and envy. These heretics were themselves of the House of David but did much harm to those rightfully filling the offices of the government.
God promised that there would always be a member of David’s house ruling over Israel, the faithful remnant of Israel. I am looking forward to the continuation of these lessons to learn how that has been realized. God is always faithful. Praise be to Him.
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