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	<title>Comments on: The Return of the Son of Man #23</title>
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	<description>The Voice of Tsiyon In Exile to the Scattered Remnant of Israel.</description>
	<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2012 05:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: waterfall</title>
		<link>http://tsiyon.org/son_of_man_return/#comment-6460</link>
		<dc:creator>waterfall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2011 22:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In response to Jim Hale's comment on Yeshua asking the woman in the garden not to touch Him, I had thought that Yeshua was being Torah observant.  Since He was preparing to go to meet the Father in that heavenly holy place, there are certain things that He should do to maintain His set-apartness.  There are times during the woman's monthly cycle that she is considered to be unclean and not able to go into the temple.  Anyone who touches her is also not able to go into the Holy Place.  So, it occurs to me that Yeshua was making certain that nothing would make void His sacrifice when He presented Himself and His blood at the heavenly altar.  I have been studying long enough to also know that I could be wrong on anything and everything, but - check it out and see what the Father says about it.
I was pretty thrilled when Eliyahu talked about the physical body resurrection of Yeshua.  Growing up in christianity, I had gathered that our resurrection would be some vague spiritual body.  Yeshua's example to us is a real, live body.  But, the best part is - it is capable of walking through walls!  Yeah, that's pretty exciting.  It's just all way better than we were led to believe.  When we eat that wedding supper of the Lamb, it will be real food, I assume.  Wow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to Jim Hale&#8217;s comment on Yeshua asking the woman in the garden not to touch Him, I had thought that Yeshua was being Torah observant.  Since He was preparing to go to meet the Father in that heavenly holy place, there are certain things that He should do to maintain His set-apartness.  There are times during the woman&#8217;s monthly cycle that she is considered to be unclean and not able to go into the temple.  Anyone who touches her is also not able to go into the Holy Place.  So, it occurs to me that Yeshua was making certain that nothing would make void His sacrifice when He presented Himself and His blood at the heavenly altar.  I have been studying long enough to also know that I could be wrong on anything and everything, but - check it out and see what the Father says about it.<br />
I was pretty thrilled when Eliyahu talked about the physical body resurrection of Yeshua.  Growing up in christianity, I had gathered that our resurrection would be some vague spiritual body.  Yeshua&#8217;s example to us is a real, live body.  But, the best part is - it is capable of walking through walls!  Yeah, that&#8217;s pretty exciting.  It&#8217;s just all way better than we were led to believe.  When we eat that wedding supper of the Lamb, it will be real food, I assume.  Wow.</p>
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		<title>By: Ginny</title>
		<link>http://tsiyon.org/son_of_man_return/#comment-6229</link>
		<dc:creator>Ginny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 10:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://tsiyon.org/son_of_man_return/#comment-6229</guid>
		<description>I agree with 2Miriam that it is sad that so many people are waiting to be raptured out of tribulation and call that 'the blessed hope'. It sells the hope so short! I long to walk on this earth among family and under the authority of my King in a glorified body!! Now THAT is a blessed hope!

DawnP - thanks for sharing those scriptures, they are really pertinent and, you're right, much more easily understood after Eliyahu's teachings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with 2Miriam that it is sad that so many people are waiting to be raptured out of tribulation and call that &#8216;the blessed hope&#8217;. It sells the hope so short! I long to walk on this earth among family and under the authority of my King in a glorified body!! Now THAT is a blessed hope!</p>
<p>DawnP - thanks for sharing those scriptures, they are really pertinent and, you&#8217;re right, much more easily understood after Eliyahu&#8217;s teachings.</p>
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		<title>By: 2Miriam</title>
		<link>http://tsiyon.org/son_of_man_return/#comment-6171</link>
		<dc:creator>2Miriam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2011 20:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://tsiyon.org/son_of_man_return/#comment-6171</guid>
		<description>Whether we live or die doesn't matter because we have his promise we will be raised in our bodies and be like Him.
They will be incorruptible and be able to do superhuman things. While it is difficult for us to comprehend or understand, we believe by faith.
We are told that every eye will see Him on His return. There is nothing secret about it - no secret rapture. It's a pity so many people have been taught lies and will be devastated and made bitter when they believed those lies instead of studying for themselves. They have a false hope that they would be removed from any tribulation.
My heart breaks for them and all in man-made religons. May God give them new eyes to see and ears to hear His Truth now!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whether we live or die doesn&#8217;t matter because we have his promise we will be raised in our bodies and be like Him.<br />
They will be incorruptible and be able to do superhuman things. While it is difficult for us to comprehend or understand, we believe by faith.<br />
We are told that every eye will see Him on His return. There is nothing secret about it - no secret rapture. It&#8217;s a pity so many people have been taught lies and will be devastated and made bitter when they believed those lies instead of studying for themselves. They have a false hope that they would be removed from any tribulation.<br />
My heart breaks for them and all in man-made religons. May God give them new eyes to see and ears to hear His Truth now!</p>
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		<title>By: DawnP</title>
		<link>http://tsiyon.org/son_of_man_return/#comment-6057</link>
		<dc:creator>DawnP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2011 07:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://tsiyon.org/son_of_man_return/#comment-6057</guid>
		<description>I feel as if I finally really understand the resurrection! I had been taught before that Yeshua is a real flesh and bones man in Heaven, but somehow it had never really sunk in. What Yeshua did by returning and spending time with His disciples and apostles is such a wonderful blessing to all of us. What a precious hope we have and such wonderful reassurance our God Himself has given us.

I am also blown away by the way I had taken on the gnostic beliefs about eternal life and Heaven. I had always struggled with how going to Heaven until the resurrection would work being Heaven is not bound by time, but I was still stuck in that mindset, thank you for clearing up what our real hope is Eliyahu. Another paradigm shift for me! How pitful my understanding is.

No one has gone up to heaven except the one who came down from heaven, the Son of Man who is in heaven. John 3:13

Who has ascended into heaven and descended? Who has gathered the wind in His fists? Who has wrapped the waters in His garment? Who has established all the ends of the earth? What is His name or His son's name? Surely you know! Proverbs 30:4

I understand the meaning of these Scriptures so much better now. Wonderful, enlightening series. Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel as if I finally really understand the resurrection! I had been taught before that Yeshua is a real flesh and bones man in Heaven, but somehow it had never really sunk in. What Yeshua did by returning and spending time with His disciples and apostles is such a wonderful blessing to all of us. What a precious hope we have and such wonderful reassurance our God Himself has given us.</p>
<p>I am also blown away by the way I had taken on the gnostic beliefs about eternal life and Heaven. I had always struggled with how going to Heaven until the resurrection would work being Heaven is not bound by time, but I was still stuck in that mindset, thank you for clearing up what our real hope is Eliyahu. Another paradigm shift for me! How pitful my understanding is.</p>
<p>No one has gone up to heaven except the one who came down from heaven, the Son of Man who is in heaven. John 3:13</p>
<p>Who has ascended into heaven and descended? Who has gathered the wind in His fists? Who has wrapped the waters in His garment? Who has established all the ends of the earth? What is His name or His son&#8217;s name? Surely you know! Proverbs 30:4</p>
<p>I understand the meaning of these Scriptures so much better now. Wonderful, enlightening series. Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Becca4Truth</title>
		<link>http://tsiyon.org/son_of_man_return/#comment-5654</link>
		<dc:creator>Becca4Truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2011 17:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://tsiyon.org/son_of_man_return/#comment-5654</guid>
		<description>What a series!  My faith, my perspective, my understanding of My Messiah has changed so much.  
We trod thru life, expecting, wanting,  so very much, wondering why are we here, what is my purpose.  Seeing that we are to be like our Messiah, hating our lives on earth, so that we can live out, walk out, and follow Him on the path laid out for us that will give us the the perfect view of what we hope for and can expect in Heaven- is so very different than how I've lived, how most live.
  
We need to take what Yeshua bought for us and live it out and then take it to the world.  We are His disciples, His witnesses in the spirit and others need to know this freedom.  True freedom that comes and resides in your very being once your eyes have been opened.
  
Oh Lord, open the eyes of your people, prepare thier hearts to receive true freedom.  Not the freedom that religion trys to offer, a false freedom that satans using to blind true seekers of the truth.  Open thier minds to search for true wisdom and may we "come out of her" as our Messiah so calls us to do.  Give them that true HOPE that only you can give.  Thank you eternally Lord Yeshua for revealing your truth to me.  Praise your Name. Your Holy Name.

Thank you Eliyahu for showing me the truth about the rapture.  I've been so confused for a very long time about this topic. 

Our Hope in Him, the true Hope, not the false hope that religion teaches, is what makes true believers want to know Him more, to be more like Him, to purify our hearts and minds, to bring Him glory.  We know thats what we were created to do, our very purpose for being created.  
How blessed is that Hope. 

I especially loved the teaching on the parable of the wheat.  Also the comparison of the children of the world and the children of the devil.  That was a neat lesson.  We need to fully mature before Yeshua comes back, and THEN......we will shine forth like the SON!  We will be glorified and will bring Him eternal glory!  And then....He will establish His kingdom.  
How perfect everything will be, just as planned.

Thank you Eliyahu for a mind-boggling, wonderful series.  You've shaken this believer.  Whoo-hoo! :0)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a series!  My faith, my perspective, my understanding of My Messiah has changed so much.<br />
We trod thru life, expecting, wanting,  so very much, wondering why are we here, what is my purpose.  Seeing that we are to be like our Messiah, hating our lives on earth, so that we can live out, walk out, and follow Him on the path laid out for us that will give us the the perfect view of what we hope for and can expect in Heaven- is so very different than how I&#8217;ve lived, how most live.</p>
<p>We need to take what Yeshua bought for us and live it out and then take it to the world.  We are His disciples, His witnesses in the spirit and others need to know this freedom.  True freedom that comes and resides in your very being once your eyes have been opened.</p>
<p>Oh Lord, open the eyes of your people, prepare thier hearts to receive true freedom.  Not the freedom that religion trys to offer, a false freedom that satans using to blind true seekers of the truth.  Open thier minds to search for true wisdom and may we &#8220;come out of her&#8221; as our Messiah so calls us to do.  Give them that true HOPE that only you can give.  Thank you eternally Lord Yeshua for revealing your truth to me.  Praise your Name. Your Holy Name.</p>
<p>Thank you Eliyahu for showing me the truth about the rapture.  I&#8217;ve been so confused for a very long time about this topic. </p>
<p>Our Hope in Him, the true Hope, not the false hope that religion teaches, is what makes true believers want to know Him more, to be more like Him, to purify our hearts and minds, to bring Him glory.  We know thats what we were created to do, our very purpose for being created.<br />
How blessed is that Hope. </p>
<p>I especially loved the teaching on the parable of the wheat.  Also the comparison of the children of the world and the children of the devil.  That was a neat lesson.  We need to fully mature before Yeshua comes back, and THEN&#8230;&#8230;we will shine forth like the SON!  We will be glorified and will bring Him eternal glory!  And then&#8230;.He will establish His kingdom.<br />
How perfect everything will be, just as planned.</p>
<p>Thank you Eliyahu for a mind-boggling, wonderful series.  You&#8217;ve shaken this believer.  Whoo-hoo! :0)</p>
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		<title>By: gilahinYah</title>
		<link>http://tsiyon.org/son_of_man_return/#comment-5284</link>
		<dc:creator>gilahinYah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jul 2011 16:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://tsiyon.org/son_of_man_return/#comment-5284</guid>
		<description>John 3:13 sheds some light on the opening statements concerning a man being in heaven.
"And no man has ascended up to the shamayim, but He that came down from the shamayim, even the Ben Ahdahm who is in the shamayim.

John 10:17-18 sheds some light on the resurrection.  "Therefore does my Abba love Me because I lay down My life, that I might take it again.  No man takes it from Me, but I lay it down by Myself.  I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again.  this commandment have I received from My Abba.  

Jude 14 sheds some light on who is coming back with Him.  And Chanok also, the seventh from Ahdahm, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Master Yahweh comes with ten thousands of His Yisraelite kidushim.

Scriptures filtered through my mind as I listened to this teaching on Yeshua's return.  Also, the scriptures E expounded on made more sense than ever before.  While the natural mind will boggle at how every eye can see Him when He returns, we must have faith that the scriptures will be fulfilled.  The creator of the heavens and the earth will have no problem fulfilling His word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John 3:13 sheds some light on the opening statements concerning a man being in heaven.<br />
&#8220;And no man has ascended up to the shamayim, but He that came down from the shamayim, even the Ben Ahdahm who is in the shamayim.</p>
<p>John 10:17-18 sheds some light on the resurrection.  &#8220;Therefore does my Abba love Me because I lay down My life, that I might take it again.  No man takes it from Me, but I lay it down by Myself.  I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again.  this commandment have I received from My Abba.  </p>
<p>Jude 14 sheds some light on who is coming back with Him.  And Chanok also, the seventh from Ahdahm, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Master Yahweh comes with ten thousands of His Yisraelite kidushim.</p>
<p>Scriptures filtered through my mind as I listened to this teaching on Yeshua&#8217;s return.  Also, the scriptures E expounded on made more sense than ever before.  While the natural mind will boggle at how every eye can see Him when He returns, we must have faith that the scriptures will be fulfilled.  The creator of the heavens and the earth will have no problem fulfilling His word.</p>
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		<title>By: jim hale</title>
		<link>http://tsiyon.org/son_of_man_return/#comment-4574</link>
		<dc:creator>jim hale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 17:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://tsiyon.org/son_of_man_return/#comment-4574</guid>
		<description>Thank you, Eliyahu, for your prompt response to my comments. I certainly agree that the SECOND coming of Christ and our return with Him will be a  SINGULAR event visible to all, but unless there is a mistranslation of the scripture passage saying that our actual ascension takes place "in the twinkling of an eye", how could something that happens that quickly be actually visible to obliviously unexpecting unbelievers? I'm not challenging the point, just very respectfully raising a good-faith question.

Shalom to you, Jim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Eliyahu, for your prompt response to my comments. I certainly agree that the SECOND coming of Christ and our return with Him will be a  SINGULAR event visible to all, but unless there is a mistranslation of the scripture passage saying that our actual ascension takes place &#8220;in the twinkling of an eye&#8221;, how could something that happens that quickly be actually visible to obliviously unexpecting unbelievers? I&#8217;m not challenging the point, just very respectfully raising a good-faith question.</p>
<p>Shalom to you, Jim</p>
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		<title>By: Tsiyon</title>
		<link>http://tsiyon.org/son_of_man_return/#comment-4571</link>
		<dc:creator>Tsiyon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 22:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://tsiyon.org/son_of_man_return/#comment-4571</guid>
		<description>Thanks again everyone, for your comments. Jim, let's answer your questions. 

Y'shua was raised with a glorified body, as we, His talmidim, also will be. (I Cor 15:51-54). The reason He gave for not wanting to be touched was; "I go My way to the Father." In other words, He was leaving and didn't want anyone clinging to Him.

The Scriptures tell us Messiah's talmidim saw Him ascend into the clouds. The Scriptures do not tell us that no one else saw Him or was unable to see Him. Two angels told those witnesses to His ascension what we can expect at His Return: "This same Y'shua who is taken up from you into Heaven, will come in the way you have seen Him going into Heaven" (Acts 1:11). In agreement with this, Revelation assures us His Return will be visible to everyone: "Behold, He comes with the clouds, and every eye will see Him, and those who pierced Him will see Him, and all the kindreds of the earth will wail because of Him." (Rev 1:7). Realize that both of these passages predict one Return - which will be a visible return. That's why it is called the SECOND Coming! An invisible return of Messiah to effect a so-called "invisible rapture" of the "church" does not agree with these facts.

Shalom, Eliyahu</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks again everyone, for your comments. Jim, let&#8217;s answer your questions. </p>
<p>Y&#8217;shua was raised with a glorified body, as we, His talmidim, also will be. (I Cor 15:51-54). The reason He gave for not wanting to be touched was; &#8220;I go My way to the Father.&#8221; In other words, He was leaving and didn&#8217;t want anyone clinging to Him.</p>
<p>The Scriptures tell us Messiah&#8217;s talmidim saw Him ascend into the clouds. The Scriptures do not tell us that no one else saw Him or was unable to see Him. Two angels told those witnesses to His ascension what we can expect at His Return: &#8220;This same Y&#8217;shua who is taken up from you into Heaven, will come in the way you have seen Him going into Heaven&#8221; (Acts 1:11). In agreement with this, Revelation assures us His Return will be visible to everyone: &#8220;Behold, He comes with the clouds, and every eye will see Him, and those who pierced Him will see Him, and all the kindreds of the earth will wail because of Him.&#8221; (Rev 1:7). Realize that both of these passages predict one Return - which will be a visible return. That&#8217;s why it is called the SECOND Coming! An invisible return of Messiah to effect a so-called &#8220;invisible rapture&#8221; of the &#8220;church&#8221; does not agree with these facts.</p>
<p>Shalom, Eliyahu</p>
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		<title>By: jim hale</title>
		<link>http://tsiyon.org/son_of_man_return/#comment-4570</link>
		<dc:creator>jim hale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 19:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would to restate the last paragraph of my comment thusly: Since unbelievers were not present to see Christ's ascension to meet the the Father, wouldn't that fact indicate that unbelievers will not see our ascencion to meet Christ, but they certainly will see our returning with Him?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would to restate the last paragraph of my comment thusly: Since unbelievers were not present to see Christ&#8217;s ascension to meet the the Father, wouldn&#8217;t that fact indicate that unbelievers will not see our ascencion to meet Christ, but they certainly will see our returning with Him?</p>
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		<title>By: jim hale</title>
		<link>http://tsiyon.org/son_of_man_return/#comment-4569</link>
		<dc:creator>jim hale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 19:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I understand the scene where Jesus encountered the woman in the garden, He told her not to touch him because He had not yet ascended to His father. If He was resurrected in the same body that was put into the tomb, and His body was "glorified" when He met with the disciples later, doesn"t that mean His body became glorified in the meantime when He went to present Himself to the Father?

Also, It is my understanding that only believers were present to see His ascension into the clouds. Wouldn't this indicate that the unbelievers will not see our actual ascension to meet the Lord, but the world will see our returning with Him?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I understand the scene where Jesus encountered the woman in the garden, He told her not to touch him because He had not yet ascended to His father. If He was resurrected in the same body that was put into the tomb, and His body was &#8220;glorified&#8221; when He met with the disciples later, doesn&#8221;t that mean His body became glorified in the meantime when He went to present Himself to the Father?</p>
<p>Also, It is my understanding that only believers were present to see His ascension into the clouds. Wouldn&#8217;t this indicate that the unbelievers will not see our actual ascension to meet the Lord, but the world will see our returning with Him?</p>
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