Comments on: Space-gods, Space Frauds #242 http://tsiyon.org/space_gods_space_frauds/ The Voice of Tsiyon In Exile to the Scattered Remnant of Israel. Mon, 21 May 2012 05:07:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc By: gilahinYah http://tsiyon.org/space_gods_space_frauds/#comment-4092 gilahinYah Thu, 02 Sep 2010 14:44:59 +0000 http://tsiyon.org/space_gods_space_frauds/#comment-4092 I remember reading a triology by C.S. Lewis years ago. In this series he deals with "space travel". The characters and symbolism dealt more with the pride and greed that men promote; and, the damage that these character traits manifested in men, cause other cultures. There were some object lessons that the characters learned. In his books he also identified people promoting space travel with the occult. It is interesting, that so many years later, we are still having to deal with the fallacies. As someone mentioned above, laziness in doing research and people trying to find another door besides Yahshua, help sustain these alien theories. Thank you for addressing this issue. Blessings. I remember reading a triology by C.S. Lewis years ago. In this series he deals with “space travel”. The characters and symbolism dealt more with the pride and greed that men promote; and, the damage that these character traits manifested in men, cause other cultures. There were some object lessons that the characters learned. In his books he also identified people promoting space travel with the occult.
It is interesting, that so many years later, we are still having to deal with the fallacies. As someone mentioned above, laziness in doing research and people trying to find another door besides Yahshua, help sustain these alien theories. Thank you for addressing this issue. Blessings.

]]> By: Shix http://tsiyon.org/space_gods_space_frauds/#comment-4024 Shix Wed, 25 Aug 2010 01:51:44 +0000 http://tsiyon.org/space_gods_space_frauds/#comment-4024 In this modern age, it is so simple to disregard God, most of what's written and photoed, appears to be fraud! The outer limits of these episodes, make you feel like your in the twilight zone! The truth is pure, so is the consequence, the trumpets will blow, in correct sequence! The revelation of this is found, in the depths of the Bible, the mystery of iniquity, we are still liable! The war of this world, is spirit driven, from here to eternity, a choice you are given! A close encounter, a personal relationship, or a walk on the wild side, keeping up with the hip! Yahweh demands, a set apart life, Yeshua tells us, to prepare for the strife! The way is narrow, when you choose correct, must disregard, the hocus pocus, misdirect! The father of lies, has been around and around, he's, space age, science, hollywood bound, a hellbound train, dont't get on board, examine the facts, believe in the Lord! Trust in Yeshua, with all of your heart, He sent us the Spirit, to guide the people set apart! In this modern age, it is so simple to disregard God,
most of what’s written and photoed, appears to be fraud!
The outer limits of these episodes,
make you feel like your in the twilight zone!
The truth is pure, so is the consequence,
the trumpets will blow, in correct sequence!
The revelation of this is found, in the depths of the Bible,
the mystery of iniquity, we are still liable!
The war of this world, is spirit driven,
from here to eternity, a choice you are given!
A close encounter, a personal relationship,
or a walk on the wild side, keeping up with the hip!
Yahweh demands, a set apart life,
Yeshua tells us, to prepare for the strife!
The way is narrow, when you choose correct,
must disregard, the hocus pocus, misdirect!
The father of lies, has been around and around,
he’s, space age, science, hollywood bound,
a hellbound train, dont’t get on board,
examine the facts, believe in the Lord!
Trust in Yeshua, with all of your heart,
He sent us the Spirit, to guide the people set apart!

]]> By: lbrtbl http://tsiyon.org/space_gods_space_frauds/#comment-4019 lbrtbl Mon, 23 Aug 2010 20:05:21 +0000 http://tsiyon.org/space_gods_space_frauds/#comment-4019 I am glad you did this presentation. I remember the book Chariots of the Gods, but don't remember if I ever read it. I think we did go see the movie. I do remember hearing about some of the things from the book/movie, like the statues, the lines, etc. The pictures were what I was wondering about. Not that I BELIEVED in aliens from other planets, but was wondering about other explanations for the pre-historic pictures of "UFOs" in caves, etc. After hearing about Daniken's background, this answers that question. Thanks Eliyahu and Dawn. I am glad you did this presentation. I remember the book Chariots of the Gods, but don’t remember if I ever read it. I think we did go see the movie. I do remember hearing about some of the things from the book/movie, like the statues, the lines, etc. The pictures were what I was wondering about. Not that I BELIEVED in aliens from other planets, but was wondering about other explanations for the pre-historic pictures of “UFOs” in caves, etc. After hearing about Daniken’s background, this answers that question.
Thanks Eliyahu and Dawn.

]]> By: Caleb http://tsiyon.org/space_gods_space_frauds/#comment-4017 Caleb Mon, 23 Aug 2010 18:31:24 +0000 http://tsiyon.org/space_gods_space_frauds/#comment-4017 Sholom Eliyhahu, I enjoyed your presentation but it seems to me that you did not address the real issue - what is the real truth vs the teachings of the learned ones. I am reading a History of Heresy by David Christie-Murray - the premise of his book on church history is that "Hersey is the opinion held by a minority of men which the majority declares unacceptable and is strong enough to pusnish." I strongly believe that the Tanach is the ultimate authority but the church has followed the Pharisidic traditon of additing to Moses' revelations - Luke 11:46-52, Deuteronomy 13:1-6. To my investigations the doctrine of the trinity in is this category. As we discover more and more about the vastness and scope of the Universe several facts become abvious: i) The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jocob is much greater then we have imagined, 2) It not likely that planet earth is the centre of the universe 3) It not an obvious fact that Yah has limited himself to only one plant with intelligent life on it. This makes me think that the Gnostic view of creation has merit. Why not address present day findings about the scope, size and details of the created universe? Grace and Shalom, Caleb P.S. I still believe that Yeshua is the living Word, and Lord of the created universe. He never ever indicated that He was equal to the Father. Sholom Eliyhahu,

I enjoyed your presentation but it seems to me that you did not address the real issue - what is the real truth vs the teachings of the learned ones.

I am reading a History of Heresy by David Christie-Murray - the premise of his book on church history is that “Hersey is the opinion held by a minority of men which the majority declares unacceptable and is strong enough to pusnish.” I strongly believe that the Tanach is the ultimate authority but the church has followed the Pharisidic traditon of additing to Moses’ revelations - Luke 11:46-52, Deuteronomy 13:1-6. To my investigations the doctrine of the trinity in is this category.

As we discover more and more about the vastness and scope of the Universe several facts become abvious: i) The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jocob is much greater then we have imagined, 2) It not likely that planet earth is the centre of the universe 3) It not an obvious fact that Yah has limited himself to only one plant with intelligent life on it. This makes me think that the Gnostic view of creation has merit.

Why not address present day findings about the scope, size and details of the created universe?

Grace and Shalom,
Caleb
P.S. I still believe that Yeshua is the living Word, and Lord of the created universe. He never ever indicated that He was equal to the Father.

]]> By: donjuls http://tsiyon.org/space_gods_space_frauds/#comment-4011 donjuls Sun, 22 Aug 2010 17:45:02 +0000 http://tsiyon.org/space_gods_space_frauds/#comment-4011 Greetings, The great deception continues in this world! Thanks, Eliyahu, for exposing these frauds. You know, most everyone these days is "too busy" (or too lazy) to do the work it takes to find the truth about these matters. There is also the bizarre concept that people would rather believe a false notion about the world then to believe in the one true God of the universe and all that He has created. It's almost as if they would rather be decieved then to believe the truth. Perhaps it's just that they can't bring themselves to submit to Yahweh. It's rebellion, plain and simple. It's always been rebellion. From the beginning til now. Just painted a different color. I don't recall seeing the movie Chariots of the Gods when it came out, but I will rent it and watch it just to see how they present these ridiculous theories. I like talk radio. (I actually found "On the Road to Tsiyon" while surfing the AM dial while driving through the northern Arizona desert where radio stations are sparse.) I have heard just about every theory or notion out there. There is a specific late night talk show that covers many of these strange topics. (I am able to listen from time to time.) It's very entertaining for me, but for those who are not grounded in the Word these programs can be very dangerous. Obviously the theories of extra-terrestrial beings (and all that goes with them) are exciting for those who have no hope or have rejected Yahweh, otherwise Mr. von Daniken would not have sold 60+ million copies on the subject. Admittedly I've not read any of his "20 some" books on the subject, but my goodness, how many times can you repackage something and sell it to the public and still have them come back for more. As you noted in the program other authors have done the same with von Deniken's material and are also selling it. It's amazing how hungry people are but yet refuse to go to the One who is the Truth, the only One who can satisfy that hunger, Yeshua. Another great show Eliyahu and Dawn. Shalom, Don Greetings,

The great deception continues in this world! Thanks, Eliyahu, for exposing these frauds. You know, most everyone these days is “too busy” (or too lazy) to do the work it takes to find the truth about these matters.

There is also the bizarre concept that people would rather believe a false notion about the world then to believe in the one true God of the universe and all that He has created. It’s almost as if they would rather be decieved then to believe the truth. Perhaps it’s just that they can’t bring themselves to submit to Yahweh. It’s rebellion, plain and simple. It’s always been rebellion. From the beginning til now. Just painted a different color.

I don’t recall seeing the movie Chariots of the Gods when it came out, but I will rent it and watch it just to see how they present these ridiculous theories.

I like talk radio. (I actually found “On the Road to Tsiyon” while surfing the AM dial while driving through the northern Arizona desert where radio stations are sparse.) I have heard just about every theory or notion out there. There is a specific late night talk show that covers many of these strange topics. (I am able to listen from time to time.) It’s very entertaining for me, but for those who are not grounded in the Word these programs can be very dangerous. Obviously the theories of extra-terrestrial beings (and all that goes with them) are exciting for those who have no hope or have rejected Yahweh, otherwise Mr. von Daniken would not have sold 60+ million copies on the subject. Admittedly I’ve not read any of his “20 some” books on the subject, but my goodness, how many times can you repackage something and sell it to the public and still have them come back for more. As you noted in the program other authors have done the same with von Deniken’s material and are also selling it.

It’s amazing how hungry people are but yet refuse to go to the One who is the Truth, the only One who can satisfy that hunger, Yeshua.

Another great show Eliyahu and Dawn.

Shalom,

Don

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