Comments on: White Horse Rider 1 #156 http://tsiyon.org/white_horse_rider_1/ The Voice of Tsiyon In Exile to the Scattered Remnant of Israel. Mon, 21 May 2012 06:42:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc By: James L http://tsiyon.org/white_horse_rider_1/#comment-6832 James L Tue, 27 Mar 2012 23:22:18 +0000 http://tsiyon.org/white_horse_rider_1/#comment-6832 This program was good to hear and review again for a least two apparent purposes, one: to solidify these truths in my mind which also helps to push out false preconceived beliefs I once considered to be possibly true(although in my innermost being these false assumptions were never settled as truth) Secondly: I have a solid basis in which to witness these truths to others in which this topic has surfaced in my fellowship recently. This is the most logical starting point to show who the white horse rider is not. He is not a false Christ as shown by the text in Matthew 24:5 Yeshua is clearly showing His disciples that men will come in His name and deceive many. That is they will proclaim Yeshua as Messiah but will deceive many by not teaching the truth and I see this rampant in the church especially with easy grace when they teach that you will always have sin and you can't be free from it so you just might as well accept it and live the best you can seeking to fulfill your desires in this life negating the fact Yeshua is The King who shall be obeyed which is your reasonable service to The one who has given you His all to transfer you into His Kingdom. He is not the anti-christ as shown with the color white and also the Greek term used for overcomer which is used all other times pertaining to those who overcome the enemy and sin who will be granted eternal fellowship with Yeshua and The Father. This is not possible for the anti-christ. The rider is Yeshua does not apply because we see He is shown as riding a white horse in Revelation 19. The rider is war doesn't work because war is released in Revelation 6:3-4 and is therefore redundant. The rider as the saints doesn't work either because they also will be riding white horses with Messiah in Revelation 19. It's amazing how simply apparent these truths are once they are presented in this manner. It's also amazing how many assimilate false assumptions based on erroneous interpretation of scripture handed down as tradition and therefore accepted as truth without further investigation. I am thankful to Yahweh for Tsiyon and Eliyahu,Dawn,and the staff at Tsiyon for being a blessing to me and helping me to see the truth. This program was good to hear and review again for a least two apparent purposes, one: to solidify these truths in my mind which also helps to push out false preconceived beliefs I once considered to be possibly true(although in my innermost being these false assumptions were never settled as truth)
Secondly: I have a solid basis in which to witness these truths to others in which this topic has surfaced in my fellowship recently.
This is the most logical starting point to show who the white horse rider is not.
He is not a false Christ as shown by the text in Matthew 24:5 Yeshua is clearly showing His disciples that men will come in His name and deceive many. That is they will proclaim Yeshua as Messiah but will deceive many by not teaching the truth and I see this rampant in the church especially with easy grace when they teach that you will always have sin and you can’t be free from it so you just might as well accept it and live the best you can seeking to fulfill your desires in this life negating the fact Yeshua is The King who shall be obeyed which is your reasonable service to The one who has given you His all to transfer you into His Kingdom.
He is not the anti-christ as shown with the color white and also the Greek term used for overcomer which is used all other times pertaining to those who overcome the enemy and sin who will be granted eternal fellowship with Yeshua and The Father. This is not possible for the anti-christ.
The rider is Yeshua does not apply because we see He is shown as riding a white horse in Revelation 19.
The rider is war doesn’t work because war is released in Revelation 6:3-4
and is therefore redundant.
The rider as the saints doesn’t work either because they also will be riding white horses with Messiah in Revelation 19.
It’s amazing how simply apparent these truths are once they are presented in this manner. It’s also amazing how many assimilate false assumptions based on erroneous interpretation of scripture handed down as tradition and therefore accepted as truth without further investigation.
I am thankful to Yahweh for Tsiyon and Eliyahu,Dawn,and the staff at Tsiyon for being a blessing to me and helping me to see the truth.

]]> By: Ginny http://tsiyon.org/white_horse_rider_1/#comment-6121 Ginny Tue, 29 Nov 2011 11:14:05 +0000 http://tsiyon.org/white_horse_rider_1/#comment-6121 Wow. I am amazed how easily and concisely you tore apart all the previously held ideas about the white horse. I am truly amazed. How often I have read the scripture as 'many shall come in my name saying, "I am the Christ."' We insert the grammar constraints from our own language onto the Greek but it doesn't make sense anyway! How can they come in Jesus' name but say that they are the Christ?! I am overwhelmed with how little I know Yeshua and how much I have to learn. Urgg. My prayer life and righteous walk are found wanting. Thank you for pointing this out to me. Repent! The kingdom of God is nigh!!! Can't wait to listen to the next session again and find out who the white horse is... I wonder who it could be?! ;) Thank you, blessings and shalom. PS Donjuls... perhaps God should be at the center of your subway sandwich decisions, it might make it taste a lot better!! :)) Love the way so many of your analogies are about food - we're on the same page Brother!! Wow. I am amazed how easily and concisely you tore apart all the previously held ideas about the white horse. I am truly amazed. How often I have read the scripture as ‘many shall come in my name saying, “I am the Christ.”‘ We insert the grammar constraints from our own language onto the Greek but it doesn’t make sense anyway! How can they come in Jesus’ name but say that they are the Christ?!

I am overwhelmed with how little I know Yeshua and how much I have to learn. Urgg. My prayer life and righteous walk are found wanting. Thank you for pointing this out to me. Repent! The kingdom of God is nigh!!!

Can’t wait to listen to the next session again and find out who the white horse is… I wonder who it could be?! ;)
Thank you, blessings and shalom.

PS Donjuls… perhaps God should be at the center of your subway sandwich decisions, it might make it taste a lot better!! :)) Love the way so many of your analogies are about food - we’re on the same page Brother!!

]]> By: donjuls http://tsiyon.org/white_horse_rider_1/#comment-5294 donjuls Thu, 04 Aug 2011 22:15:47 +0000 http://tsiyon.org/white_horse_rider_1/#comment-5294 This is a cool program. Eliyahu and Dawn have fun at poking holes in the various Christian interpretations of who the White Horse Rider is, as well as debunking the notion of a Pre-Tribulation Rapture. You get a lot for your money here folks. Matthew 7:21-23 I think this is one of the scariest scriptures in the Bible. (Should I even admit that? Does that mean that I might fall into the category of being one of those living in rebellion? one of those to whom Messiah says, "I never knew you." ) Here's the thing. Whenever I come across a scripture like this I think to myself, "Now being that Messiah is who He is and knows everything, He surely knew that this Scripture would not only be misunderstood but also cause a fair amount of anxiety in beleivers. Why would He leave this particular scripture unexplained?" I've come to the conclusion that He wants us to think about these things, to ponder them and ask the difficult questions, like, "does this apply to me?" "Does this apply to the church or just to the heathen that reject him outright?" Well, when you take the scripture at face value, Messiah is clearly talking about those who profess to be believers. Eliyahu clearly and plainly explains these scriptures. These people, yes-beleivers, christians and Messianics, are the ones living in rebellion to the Father's will. I have learned that if Yahweh is not at the center of every decision I make (probably not whether I have lettece or black olives on my Subway sandwhich- but the important ones) then I am running the risk of not doing His will. Not doing His will = Rebellion. I used to believe that he didn't really mind which path we take in our lives and careers and marriage, etc so long as we professed faith in His Son as Messiah. I WAS WRONG! I have since repented and turned away from that way of thinking. I know He does care. I believe He enjoys "micromanaging" our lives. Not becasue He is a meddling Father but becasue He loves us beyond measure. He absolutely only wants the best for us. He gave us the choice of either following His ways or we do what we want and do it our way. There is no amalgamation of the two lifestyles. You're not at Dairy Queen enjoying a half vanilla -half chocolate ice cream cone. It's one or the other. You seek His ways for your life or you're living in rebellion. And if you're in rebellion then Yeshua say to you, "I never knew you. You worker of iniquity." Now which do you want to here from Him as you are standing there looking into those all penetrating, all judging, all knowing, all loving eyes? A. "Well done good and faithful servent." or B. "I never knew you. You worker of iniquitiy." Did you say "A"? Ding ding ding, GOOD ANSWER. So let's get with the program and get out of rebellion. You know we all think that we will here answer "A". But Yeshua himself said that many (most) will here answer "B". Now either He is a liar or we have not taken this scripture serious enough to figure out what He is really saying. It's too scary to find out how we really fit into this puzzle. It's not reaaly hard to figure out (especially after Eliyahu explains it so clearly). What's hard is cooming to grips with perhaps belonging to "Category B" when we thought we were in "Category A". That's a tough thing to do. You have to swallow a whole lot of pride to be able to wrap your head around this one. Shalom, Don This is a cool program. Eliyahu and Dawn have fun at poking holes in the various Christian interpretations of who the White Horse Rider is, as well as debunking the notion of a Pre-Tribulation Rapture. You get a lot for your money here folks.

Matthew 7:21-23
I think this is one of the scariest scriptures in the Bible. (Should I even admit that? Does that mean that I might fall into the category of being one of those living in rebellion? one of those to whom Messiah says, “I never knew you.” )
Here’s the thing. Whenever I come across a scripture like this I think to myself, “Now being that Messiah is who He is and knows everything, He surely knew that this Scripture would not only be misunderstood but also cause a fair amount of anxiety in beleivers. Why would He leave this particular scripture unexplained?” I’ve come to the conclusion that He wants us to think about these things, to ponder them and ask the difficult questions, like, “does this apply to me?” “Does this apply to the church or just to the heathen that reject him outright?” Well, when you take the scripture at face value, Messiah is clearly talking about those who profess to be believers.
Eliyahu clearly and plainly explains these scriptures. These people,
yes-beleivers, christians and Messianics, are the ones living in rebellion to the Father’s will. I have learned that if Yahweh is not at the center of every decision I make (probably not whether I have lettece or black olives on my Subway sandwhich- but the important ones) then I am running the risk of not doing His will. Not doing His will = Rebellion.

I used to believe that he didn’t really mind which path we take in our lives and careers and marriage, etc so long as we professed faith in His Son as Messiah. I WAS WRONG! I have since repented and turned away from that way of thinking. I know He does care. I believe He enjoys “micromanaging” our lives. Not becasue He is a meddling Father but becasue He loves us beyond measure. He absolutely only wants the best for us. He gave us the choice of either following His ways or we do what we want and do it our way. There is no amalgamation of the two lifestyles. You’re not at Dairy Queen enjoying a half vanilla -half chocolate ice cream cone. It’s one or the other.
You seek His ways for your life or you’re living in rebellion. And if you’re in rebellion then Yeshua say to you, “I never knew you. You worker of iniquity.”
Now which do you want to here from Him as you are standing there looking into those all penetrating, all judging, all knowing, all loving eyes?
A. “Well done good and faithful servent.”
or
B. “I never knew you. You worker of iniquitiy.”

Did you say “A”? Ding ding ding, GOOD ANSWER.
So let’s get with the program and get out of rebellion.

You know we all think that we will here answer “A”. But Yeshua himself said that many (most) will here answer “B”. Now either He is a liar or we have not taken this scripture serious enough to figure out what He is really saying. It’s too scary to find out how we really fit into this puzzle. It’s not reaaly hard to figure out (especially after Eliyahu explains it so clearly). What’s hard is cooming to grips with perhaps belonging to “Category B” when we thought we were in “Category A”. That’s a tough thing to do. You have to swallow a whole lot of pride to be able to wrap your head around this one.

Shalom,

Don

]]> By: gilahinYah http://tsiyon.org/white_horse_rider_1/#comment-3984 gilahinYah Tue, 17 Aug 2010 22:23:04 +0000 http://tsiyon.org/white_horse_rider_1/#comment-3984 This message was definitely worth hearing again. Blessings. This message was definitely worth hearing again. Blessings.

]]> By: fredrad http://tsiyon.org/white_horse_rider_1/#comment-3371 fredrad Sat, 13 Feb 2010 07:10:11 +0000 http://tsiyon.org/white_horse_rider_1/#comment-3371 This was an excellent lesson.I have got to admit.Having heard a latter show first,I was not sure what I would pick up here.My mind was blown at this lesson.So many times I have read"For many will come in my name,saying,I am the Christ, and will deceive many". I thought I understood these verses throughout the Gospels.Boy was I wrong.This focus on the Apostasy is Huge .Without it you would not understand why the Letters to the Churches come first"call to correction/repentance".This explains so much.I knew I was experiencing this but did not understand ,or connect the dots to the scriptures,to realize it fulfills prophecy. Again this is key because just as Israel had become Apostate at the time of the birth of Y'shua.So has the World Church system today. There was a call to repentance then,and so there shall be again x2. I see now why Eliyahu has this crucial information placed here. This correction of scripture illuminates the White Horse Rider in an exciting way.Listen on people "It Ain't The Antichrist". Blessings to all, Fred This was an excellent lesson.I have got to admit.Having heard a latter show first,I was not sure what I would pick up here.My mind was blown at this lesson.So many times I have read”For many will come in my name,saying,I am the Christ, and will deceive many”. I thought I understood these verses throughout the Gospels.Boy was I wrong.This focus on the Apostasy is Huge .Without it you would not understand why the Letters to the Churches come first”call to correction/repentance”.This explains so much.I knew I was experiencing this but did not understand ,or connect the dots to the scriptures,to realize it fulfills prophecy. Again this is key because just as Israel had become Apostate at the time of the birth of Y’shua.So has the World Church system today. There was a call to repentance then,and so there shall be again x2. I see now why Eliyahu has this crucial information placed here. This correction of scripture illuminates the White Horse Rider in an exciting way.Listen on people “It Ain’t The Antichrist”.
Blessings to all,
Fred

]]> By: colleen white http://tsiyon.org/white_horse_rider_1/#comment-2818 colleen white Sun, 28 Dec 2008 01:35:52 +0000 http://tsiyon.org/white_horse_rider_1/#comment-2818 Now that was really good. We still don't know who the horseman is. Didn't you mention it being Michael the archangel? That would make the most since to me. Now that was really good. We still don’t know who the horseman is. Didn’t you mention it being Michael the archangel? That would make the most since to me.

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